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	<title>Comments on: How to disable the Actiontec DSL modem web activity log</title>
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	<description>It is indeed the best revenge... ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Krista</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Krista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 06:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words: customers should have the choice to shut local logging off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words: customers should have the choice to shut local logging off.</p>
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		<title>By: Krista</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>Krista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 06:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said upfront (and really, this post is what... four years old? Is it really worth being nasty over?):

&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not like Qwest couldn&#039;t keep track of what we were doing on their own...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course your ISP has all of the information collected here and more, and anyone who really gives a crap about anonymity needs to consider other solutions (Tor, GNUnet, etc). But maybe, hypothetically, I don&#039;t want my roommate, who shares my DSL connection, having access to what porn (or knitting, or music, or whatever) sites I&#039;m checking out, and maybe (like the stupid iPhone location log everyone&#039;s freaked out about) I just don&#039;t want an extra (perhaps insecurely stored) log of my activity hanging around on on my devices that I can&#039;t shut off. 

Which, in fact, I didn&#039;t. Whole point of this (ancient) post.

The issue isn&#039;t the logging, because frankly, you either accept that your traffic goes through intermediaries between you and the destination and that you have no control over who keeps track of what, or you do something to obscure the nature of that traffic as it goes from you to the destination and hope that that is enough.

You can&#039;t expect your mobile phone provider not to know (or keep track of) your location, but it isn&#039;t unreasonable to want your phone OS 1) not to keep a separate local log of your locations, and 2) if they do, store it securely; similarly, you can&#039;t expect your ISP not to know (or keep track of) your traffic, but it isn&#039;t unreasonable to want your (ISP-mandated) DSL modem not to keep a separate local log of your traffic, either.

Whether that&#039;s overly paranoid or not is subject to debate, but philosophically, I object to being forced to store logging information on my own hardware that I would rather not have stored locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said upfront (and really, this post is what&#8230; four years old? Is it really worth being nasty over?):</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not like Qwest couldn&#8217;t keep track of what we were doing on their own&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course your ISP has all of the information collected here and more, and anyone who really gives a crap about anonymity needs to consider other solutions (Tor, GNUnet, etc). But maybe, hypothetically, I don&#8217;t want my roommate, who shares my DSL connection, having access to what porn (or knitting, or music, or whatever) sites I&#8217;m checking out, and maybe (like the stupid iPhone location log everyone&#8217;s freaked out about) I just don&#8217;t want an extra (perhaps insecurely stored) log of my activity hanging around on on my devices that I can&#8217;t shut off. </p>
<p>Which, in fact, I didn&#8217;t. Whole point of this (ancient) post.</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t the logging, because frankly, you either accept that your traffic goes through intermediaries between you and the destination and that you have no control over who keeps track of what, or you do something to obscure the nature of that traffic as it goes from you to the destination and hope that that is enough.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t expect your mobile phone provider not to know (or keep track of) your location, but it isn&#8217;t unreasonable to want your phone OS 1) not to keep a separate local log of your locations, and 2) if they do, store it securely; similarly, you can&#8217;t expect your ISP not to know (or keep track of) your traffic, but it isn&#8217;t unreasonable to want your (ISP-mandated) DSL modem not to keep a separate local log of your traffic, either.</p>
<p>Whether that&#8217;s overly paranoid or not is subject to debate, but philosophically, I object to being forced to store logging information on my own hardware that I would rather not have stored locally.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2877</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of you folks are either overly paranoid, or just plain retarded.    The ISP&#039;s already keep a more detailed log of your activity.  That log is on the modem for your reference, as some people use that information about their own networks for security purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of you folks are either overly paranoid, or just plain retarded.    The ISP&#8217;s already keep a more detailed log of your activity.  That log is on the modem for your reference, as some people use that information about their own networks for security purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: aliencam</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>aliencam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the Actiontec Q1000 the steps are similar: 

telnet 192.168.0.1

*username/password* (these must be set in advanced&gt;remote Telnet in the GUI, you can leave the &quot;remote telnet&quot; option disabled though.)

sh (typing &quot;sh&quot;  takes you out of the telnet shell and into the full busybox shell)

cd /var

rm webActivityLog

ln -s /dev/null webActivityLog    (if you don&#039;t do this immediately after the previous command, it will say &quot;file exists&quot;  just make sure nobody is using the network while you are doing this to help avoid that problem)

exit

exit  (you have to type &quot;exit&quot;  twice to get out of the busybox shell, then telnet)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the Actiontec Q1000 the steps are similar: </p>
<p>telnet 192.168.0.1</p>
<p>*username/password* (these must be set in advanced&gt;remote Telnet in the GUI, you can leave the &#8220;remote telnet&#8221; option disabled though.)</p>
<p>sh (typing &#8220;sh&#8221;  takes you out of the telnet shell and into the full busybox shell)</p>
<p>cd /var</p>
<p>rm webActivityLog</p>
<p>ln -s /dev/null webActivityLog    (if you don&#8217;t do this immediately after the previous command, it will say &#8220;file exists&#8221;  just make sure nobody is using the network while you are doing this to help avoid that problem)</p>
<p>exit</p>
<p>exit  (you have to type &#8220;exit&#8221;  twice to get out of the busybox shell, then telnet)</p>
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		<title>By: lls</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2863</link>
		<dc:creator>lls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 01:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

The system log can be found by typing  192.168.0.1/support/utilities into your http: box it will ask you for your username and password after typing it in it will bring up Qwest m1000 website and look at the utilities options box and it is there.

If anyone knows if it can be deleted or if it is necessary I would like to know.

thanks

lls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>The system log can be found by typing  192.168.0.1/support/utilities into your http: box it will ask you for your username and password after typing it in it will bring up Qwest m1000 website and look at the utilities options box and it is there.</p>
<p>If anyone knows if it can be deleted or if it is necessary I would like to know.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>lls</p>
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		<title>By: Larry McElroy</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2858</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unable to find the web log, anyone know how to find it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unable to find the web log, anyone know how to find it?</p>
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		<title>By: lls</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>lls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

I dont know if this posting is still viable but I have setup a script to delete the web log and found out that there is a system log located at 192.168.0.1/support/utilities and was wondering if there was anyway to delete the system log or is it needed for some reason.

thanks for all your help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>I dont know if this posting is still viable but I have setup a script to delete the web log and found out that there is a system log located at 192.168.0.1/support/utilities and was wondering if there was anyway to delete the system log or is it needed for some reason.</p>
<p>thanks for all your help!</p>
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		<title>By: Krista Grothoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>Krista Grothoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely true. Keep in mind that (as far as I recall - this was four years ago) this was written around a time when ISPs were complaining about the possibility of being legally obligated to store so much information about customers, and I simply didn&#039;t like the idea that I would be keeping that information available on a distributed basis.

If you really give a crap about what your ISP sees, you need to be looking at Tor or GNUnet or ... - I never make claims of establishing anonymity of any type here ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely true. Keep in mind that (as far as I recall &#8211; this was four years ago) this was written around a time when ISPs were complaining about the possibility of being legally obligated to store so much information about customers, and I simply didn&#8217;t like the idea that I would be keeping that information available on a distributed basis.</p>
<p>If you really give a crap about what your ISP sees, you need to be looking at Tor or GNUnet or &#8230; &#8211; I never make claims of establishing anonymity of any type here <img src='http://blog.kgrothoff.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2799</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice writeup but the ISPs are storing this information on their servers.  You are just removing local references....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice writeup but the ISPs are storing this information on their servers.  You are just removing local references&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
		<link>http://blog.kgrothoff.org/2006/08/12/how-to-disable-the-actiontec-dsl-modem-web-activity-log/comment-page-1/#comment-2765</link>
		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 02:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t get it to work on the q1000. It wouldn&#039;t list directory contents either. However,  it would let you type help and the type &quot;syslog dump&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t get it to work on the q1000. It wouldn&#8217;t list directory contents either. However,  it would let you type help and the type &#8220;syslog dump&#8221;</p>
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